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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2009, 11:05:45 AM »
My company pays $750-1000 per chair which is common for a commercial quality chair.  Also keep in mind that those $100-200 chairs will not stand up to any kind of abuse.  Especially the occasions where a large person uses it (sportswriters, coaches, etc).

Like anything else, valid points can be made for any decision.  There is no point in going back and forth about the cost.  It's done and the district has a top notch press box that should be state of the art for years to come.   
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2009, 11:06:34 AM »
The bond money has NOTHING to do with the budget deficit.  Bond money CAN NOT be spent on maintenance and operations -- that is daily district business.  Comparing money spent on items in the bond to the budget deficit will do absolutely no good other than to satisfy some peoples' desire to complain at will.

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2009, 11:21:11 AM »
If you would have read my previous post, I stated that this was BOND money.  I was just trying to make the point about our purchasing decisions.  I agree that what is done is done.  I just hope that we will use better rationale in the future on all purchases.  The fact is everyone has just got or will soon get their tax bill and it continues to rise.  We are paying more in taxes, have a budget deficit, talking about layoffs, etc. and not thinking twice about purchases.  Well, I think I have said enough and I'm starting to drift off of the topic.
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2009, 02:43:21 PM »
Another issue was brought to my attention on this matter.  Since this was bond money it could have been moved to cover other issues.  Prime example is the roof repairs on the high school that is an additional ~$27,000.  Heck, we could have paid for that with what we paid for the chairs and still had money left for the baseball and softball fields.
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2009, 04:34:50 PM »
The bond money has NOTHING to do with the budget deficit.  Bond money CAN NOT be spent on maintenance and operations -- that is daily district business.  Comparing money spent on items in the bond to the budget deficit will do absolutely no good other than to satisfy some peoples' desire to complain at will.

I know bond money cannot be used for M & O but guess what, if we have money left over, we can use it to pay down the bond amount!!!  Y'all do know that the bond money has to be paid back, right?  Whatcha going to pay it with when you have a deficit budget? So, finding a happy medium on purchases made with bond money is the point here, and in my opinion, $850 chairs are not a happy medium, - lifetime warranty on $10.00 casters -not a selling point for me, sorry. 

NDNfan#1 - just so you know, the board is trying to find ways to help this budget crisis and will be holding workshops to try and come up with ways to tackle this problem, so lets not sell them short just yet, we have 4 years to try and fix it...

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2009, 05:27:03 PM »
The money to pay the bond back comes from different taxes.  Once again, nothing to do with the deficit budget.

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2009, 05:40:31 PM »
The money to pay the bond back comes from different taxes.  Once again, nothing to do with the deficit budget.

Different taxes ??? What /which taxes ?? Our property taxes for the school district ?? 
My school property taxes are at point of being HIGHER than my homeowners insurance !!!

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2009, 05:59:41 PM »
Cy-Fair ISD school taxes are at least 2x higher than homeowners insurance.
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2009, 12:04:32 AM »
The money to pay the bond back comes from different taxes.  Once again, nothing to do with the deficit budget.

What different taxes?  Still our money...or are strangers going to pay our bond off for us? What do you mean different taxes....educate me, please.  If we don't use the whole amount, we can give it back, this reduces the amount that has to be paid back.  This is why the expenditures are causing a stink..that and the fact that teachers, aides and staff may lose their jobs, do you not understand that as many as 50 teachers may not have a job next year?  That was the first number that has been thrown out - may not end up being that many, but there will be lost jobs unless by some miracle this issue is resolved.  There are things that can be done to reduce the number of jobs lost.  I want you to understand that I know the difference between what bond money can and cannot be used for.  Items that were set forth in the bond, per campus are what these funds can be used for.  I get it.  If we don't use all of these funds, we can return the unused portion, thus reducing our debt.   Now, I also want you to understand that I realize that the deficit budget was not caused by the bond.  Alot of it has to do with the revenue in the form of taxes that we were to receive from the refineries, but due to the reduction that the refineries filed for, our revenue has been reduced, yet we continued to spend like there was no tomorrow even though we have known for 2 yrs that this was probably coming.  Also, we had some lost revenue from investment income, not with in our control, this is an economy issue. But the bond and the deficit do go hand in hand because above all else that bond has to be re-paid and everything else be damned...

So you tell me where these other tax monies are coming from and that all our teachers jobs are safe and I will drop  the subject...

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 03:36:14 PM »
If the problem is that visiting coaches will not take care of them, then why not spend $7 and get a metal folding chair.  These are pretty indestructible and they only have to sit in it a few hours.  Heck, they are coaches they should be able to handle not sitting in the lap of luxury for a few hours.  Don't get me wrong I love PNG football but I think that our district is making bad choices on purchases and the superintendent nor the Board are doing anything to try and fix the budget deficit.  This is a serious matter and getting the best chairs that money can by is not the right thing to do at this time. 
Just realized I overlooked this--some on the board DID question this-the new board members, anyway.  The admin needs to oversee money better or we'll be broke. We have a 5 million dollar deficit now.

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2009, 11:07:20 AM »
If the problem is that visiting coaches will not take care of them, then why not spend $7 and get a metal folding chair.  These are pretty indestructible and they only have to sit in it a few hours.  Heck, they are coaches they should be able to handle not sitting in the lap of luxury for a few hours.  Don't get me wrong I love PNG football but I think that our district is making bad choices on purchases and the superintendent nor the Board are doing anything to try and fix the budget deficit.  This is a serious matter and getting the best chairs that money can by is not the right thing to do at this time. 

Putting a $7 chair into that beautiful press box  is like putting Big Lots furniture into a new $350,000 home you just had built.  It just dont look good!!  Things HAVE to look good and be impressive, regardless of what the expense is.   ;)  So what that ya have to eat Ramen noodles and Spam for the next 20 years...you have a beautiful home to eat it in. :cheesy:
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2009, 05:43:14 PM »
If the problem is that visiting coaches will not take care of them, then why not spend $7 and get a metal folding chair.  These are pretty indestructible and they only have to sit in it a few hours.  Heck, they are coaches they should be able to handle not sitting in the lap of luxury for a few hours.  Don't get me wrong I love PNG football but I think that our district is making bad choices on purchases and the superintendent nor the Board are doing anything to try and fix the budget deficit.  This is a serious matter and getting the best chairs that money can by is not the right thing to do at this time. 

Putting a $7 chair into that beautiful press box  is like putting Big Lots furniture into a new $350,000 home you just had built.  It just dont look good!!  Things HAVE to look good and be impressive, regardless of what the expense is.   ;)  So what that ya have to eat Ramen noodles and Spam for the next 20 years...you have a beautiful home to eat it in. :cheesy:

This is a happy medium out there somewhere - $300 chairs, maybe?  And squaw, you are correct, the board did question it, after the chairs had been bought and used, ONLY because that is when they found out about it.  Had they known before hand, I don't think that would have been approved...

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2009, 08:52:42 PM »
If the problem is that visiting coaches will not take care of them, then why not spend $7 and get a metal folding chair.  These are pretty indestructible and they only have to sit in it a few hours.  Heck, they are coaches they should be able to handle not sitting in the lap of luxury for a few hours.  Don't get me wrong I love PNG football but I think that our district is making bad choices on purchases and the superintendent nor the Board are doing anything to try and fix the budget deficit.  This is a serious matter and getting the best chairs that money can by is not the right thing to do at this time. 

Putting a $7 chair into that beautiful press box  is like putting Big Lots furniture into a new $350,000 home you just had built.  It just dont look good!!  Things HAVE to look good and be impressive, regardless of what the expense is.   ;)  So what that ya have to eat Ramen noodles and Spam for the next 20 years...you have a beautiful home to eat it in. :cheesy:

This is a happy medium out there somewhere - $300 chairs, maybe?  And squaw, you are correct, the board did question it, after the chairs had been bought and used, ONLY because that is when they found out about it.  Had they known before hand, I don't think that would have been approved...
Your right, the board was surprised by this and actually held a special meeting last Wednesday to discuss it.  There were 16 chairs purchased at around $875 and somewhere around 50 purchased at $475 among other crazy expenses.  This was done through the administration without the board knowing about it.  It just happened to be mentioned at the previous board meeting.  I am glad to see that the board was addressing the purchasing practices by the administration.
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2009, 09:52:48 PM »
I'll sponsor a chair if it will eventually stop the complaints.  Who else is with me?  Call it the 'Adopt A Chair' program.
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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2009, 10:00:35 PM »
Sign me up!!!

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Re: Pics from Inside the Press Box
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2009, 10:10:12 PM »
Sign me up!!!

Hooray!! OK, board members, you just read it, too! IndianFan and Justafan (my favorite poster  ;) just said they each will send the district $875.00 apiece to "sponsor" a chair.  I will pay for the plastic tags on each chair with their names on them.  Send them a bill!  :crazy: