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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2008, 10:27:40 PM »
The white is usually lime.  It solidifies the earth so the next phase can be done.
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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2008, 01:19:01 AM »
Probably a crushed stone base to provide a level surface and good drainage.

The district has selected a great turf product.

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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2008, 02:31:57 PM »
Took some pics today.






      



      


      


      

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2008, 08:06:32 PM »
Too cool.  As a comparison, the new Indian Stadium scoreboard blows away $20M+ Berry Stadium's board.   It's going o be an incredible experience playing in and watching games in that stadium.  ;D
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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2008, 06:39:32 PM »
Another one from the opposite end.


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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2008, 07:30:41 PM »
Schweeeeeeeeeeeet!

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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2008, 01:47:19 PM »
While this all very nice and I am proud of the improvements, I do have a question for all of you.  Do any of you care about the fact that we are WWAAAAAYYYY over budget on the Bond?  Do you care to know why we are overbudget?  Go ask a School Board member, if you can find one that will answer your question.  I have heard many different figures of the overbudget amount but I will list the most current figure as of Thursday $12 million!!!!  There will be NO improvements to the Softball or Baseball fields( part of the Bond ) due to being over budget.  But who really cares, right.  As long as we have the football stadium and scoreboard - it doesn't matter if we don't get any of the other things that were in the bond proposal or rather that we do get the other things that were in the proposal, just make them the substandard version of the original.

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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2008, 06:44:08 PM »
While this all very nice and I am proud of the improvements, I do have a question for all of you.  Do any of you care about the fact that we are WWAAAAAYYYY over budget on the Bond?  Do you care to know why we are overbudget?  Go ask a School Board member, if you can find one that will answer your question.  I have heard many different figures of the overbudget amount but I will list the most current figure as of Thursday $12 million!!!!  There will be NO improvements to the Softball or Baseball fields( part of the Bond ) due to being over budget.  But who really cares, right.  As long as we have the football stadium and scoreboard - it doesn't matter if we don't get any of the other things that were in the bond proposal or rather that we do get the other things that were in the proposal, just make them the substandard version of the original.

I dont know how many times it has been said but the scoreboard was NOT part of the bond money...separate deal.

The other projects arent the only ones being altered due to being overbudget, it was talked about on this site months ago that the football stadium design was changed as well.

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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2008, 06:48:49 PM »
Are you stating fact or is this just here say.  You say you have heard many different figures, so how do you know which one to believe?  By the way, yes, i would like to know why.  Can you tell us?

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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2008, 08:46:56 PM »
While this all very nice and I am proud of the improvements, I do have a question for all of you.  Do any of you care about the fact that we are WWAAAAAYYYY over budget on the Bond?  Do you care to know why we are overbudget?  Go ask a School Board member, if you can find one that will answer your question.  I have heard many different figures of the overbudget amount but I will list the most current figure as of Thursday $12 million!!!!  There will be NO improvements to the Softball or Baseball fields( part of the Bond ) due to being over budget.  But who really cares, right.  As long as we have the football stadium and scoreboard - it doesn't matter if we don't get any of the other things that were in the bond proposal or rather that we do get the other things that were in the proposal, just make them the substandard version of the original.

I dont know how many times it has been said but the scoreboard was NOT part of the bond money...separate deal.

The other projects arent the only ones being altered due to being overbudget, it was talked about on this site months ago that the football stadium design was changed as well.

I know the scoreboard was not part of the bond nor was it purchased with bond money, however, who takes that kind of money from the general fund when you have huge projects about to begin with the possibility of problems, it was irresponsible in my opinion. 

How do you go over budget with a contract that states "not to exceed"?  How is that done again?  The alterations were a down grade from what was proposed, not an upgrade....

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2008, 08:52:59 PM »
Are you stating fact or is this just here say.  You say you have heard many different figures, so how do you know which one to believe?  By the way, yes, i would like to know why.  Can you tell us?

No, it is a fact that we are over budget.  Not just hear say.  If I could pin point the exact reason, I would be happy to tell you.  I am trying to figure out, with all the cuts that are being made to other projects and a contract with H. B Nield and Sons that states "not to a exceed" a certain amount, how in the hell we are over budget.  I wish someone would state it in public to stop all the speculation, I guess it is none of our business, just our money.  I have officially heard $12 million.  At first I heard $2 million, this was about a month ago and that was from a district employee who is directly involved in all that is going on with the bond. 


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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2008, 08:59:33 PM »
While this all very nice and I am proud of the improvements, I do have a question for all of you.  Do any of you care about the fact that we are WWAAAAAYYYY over budget on the Bond?  Do you care to know why we are overbudget?  Go ask a School Board member, if you can find one that will answer your question.  I have heard many different figures of the overbudget amount but I will list the most current figure as of Thursday $12 million!!!!  There will be NO improvements to the Softball or Baseball fields( part of the Bond ) due to being over budget.  But who really cares, right.  As long as we have the football stadium and scoreboard - it doesn't matter if we don't get any of the other things that were in the bond proposal or rather that we do get the other things that were in the proposal, just make them the substandard version of the original.

I dont know how many times it has been said but the scoreboard was NOT part of the bond money...separate deal.

The other projects arent the only ones being altered due to being overbudget, it was talked about on this site months ago that the football stadium design was changed as well.

I know the scoreboard was not part of the bond nor was it purchased with bond money, however, who takes that kind of money from the general fund when you have huge projects about to begin with the possibility of problems, it was irresponsible in my opinion. 

How do you go over budget with a contract that states "not to exceed"?  How is that done again?  The alterations were a down grade from what was proposed, not an upgrade....

so if a big company or rich alumni that wants to donate money to the PNG football program, they are suppost to say "no, thats irresponsible"?? come on.

as far as the other issues go, when the bond was voted on and passed noone in their right mind could have known gas would jump to an avg of $4 a gallon causing prices for supplies to skyrocket at a record pace. The price of concrete and steel is outragous right now. They dont have any other choice but to cut cost and its happening across the board, including the football stadium. I dont see what your argument is, they cant just quit working on it. If the stadium would have been later on in the schedule it probably would have been scaled back even more but thats the breaks.
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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2008, 09:14:00 PM »
Very true that costs are sky rocketing in all segments.  Inflation, weak dollar, crippling energy costs, credit crisis...  It's all coming together in a perfect economic storm that is a huge challenge.  Price increases are passed along to the consumer.

PNGISD isn't the only district that's struggling.  Cy-Fair ISD is on the verge of bankruptcy because of various factors.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2008, 09:53:52 PM »
so if a big company or rich alumni that wants to donate money to the PNG football program, they are suppost to say "no, thats irresponsible"?? come on.



It wasn't donated - the original version was a partial donation, FEMA money and insurance money - the modifications were purchased with money from the general fund.  Whatever, I am tired of talking about the frickin scoreboard - I really don't care anymore. Forget it.


The cost of everything has gone up, yes I understand that - and money was built into the bond to as contingency in case that happened - I believe it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 30% - So the question remains, are we over budget and over the contingent amount, even with the cut backs?  How and why? 

All reports from the Board and Construction Manager state that everything is just hunky dorie!!!!!

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2008, 09:57:41 PM »
All reports from the Board and Construction Manager state that everything is just hunky dorie!!!!!

If the baseball, softball, and tennis facilities are being cut, all involved should have a grand 'ol time explaining how everything was fine when they announce the cuts.

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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2008, 10:05:51 PM »
All reports from the Board and Construction Manager state that everything is just hunky dorie!!!!!

If the baseball, softball, and tennis facilities are being cut, all involved should have a grand 'ol time explaining how everything was fine when they announce the cuts.

I bet I could sell tickets. :) The problem is not one of the the Admin or Board members will make a public statement.  They just allow speculation to continue and rely on gossip to get the word out.  However, the "gossip" that I was told came directly from those involved, so if they were made aware of it by Admin - why not make a statement, in the newspaper of their choice - that this project has been cut from the bond.   And if it has been cut from the bond - why are we still over budget? 


Anyone know of a good forensic accountant?  I think we need to actually have a fund raiser and hire one. 

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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2008, 02:17:47 PM »
this school board is nothing but a bunch of rednecks!  and as for as them listening to you , that a joke! they all have their head up their butt, to even bother to answer your question , they think they are above the public. I would be embarrassed to say i on this board.

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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2008, 08:06:11 PM »
this school board is nothing but a bunch of rednecks!  and as for as them listening to you , that a joke! they all have their head up their butt, to even bother to answer your question , they think they are above the public. I would be embarrassed to say i on this board.

I don't know where to actually post this so here it goes. 

Did you read today's PA so-called paper - Lani Randall requested that the City of Groves waive the fees for building permits to build the new Groves Middle School, the cost of these permits adds up to about $75,000.  The City voted against the waiver because no one from the district bothered to show up to the City Council meeting to answer questions regarding why the District was requesting the waiver.  We can't pay for permits, now?   Not good at all. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2008, 09:09:28 PM »
this school board is nothing but a bunch of rednecks!  and as for as them listening to you , that a joke! they all have their head up their butt, to even bother to answer your question , they think they are above the public. I would be embarrassed to say i on this board.

I don't know where to actually post this so here it goes. 

Did you read today's PA so-called paper - Lani Randall requested that the City of Groves waive the fees for building permits to build the new Groves Middle School, the cost of these permits adds up to about $75,000.  The City voted against the waiver because no one from the district bothered to show up to the City Council meeting to answer questions regarding why the District was requesting the waiver.  We can't pay for permits, now?   Not good at all. 

well there you go, they think they ask and it shall come! I am proud of our Mayor and City council for voting against the wavier! Why should we short change our city budget because of the PNGISD can not do not know how to do the math on their budget!  Time for the board members to resign and get someone on the board that knows what he/she is doing! I think we should start a petition for their removable from the board!

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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2008, 03:00:34 PM »
Maybe NDNPARENT and MightyNDNS should be running the entire thing.  I just logged into the site after reading posts for a couple of month and every thread I go to the (2) of you have nothing good to say.  If you are that unhappy there are other cities around here you could move to if needed....I just like 99% of the others on this would like to discuss things back and forth and everything for the (2) of you comes back to bonds....If you dont like it....move....I on the other hand will continue to pay taxes in any city I live in and take it with a grain of salt..Voice my opinion at a few school board meetings but then go back to paying taxes......

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Re: Scoreboard improvements
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2008, 09:09:31 PM »
Touchet' Coonass322    :duel:
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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2008, 09:24:23 PM »
 :punchingbag:

Its time for some football!!

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« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2008, 09:33:42 PM »
Maybe NDNPARENT and MightyNDNS should be running the entire thing.  I just logged into the site after reading posts for a couple of month and every thread I go to the (2) of you have nothing good to say.  If you are that unhappy there are other cities around here you could move to if needed....I just like 99% of the others on this would like to discuss things back and forth and everything for the (2) of you comes back to bonds....If you dont like it....move....I on the other hand will continue to pay taxes in any city I live in and take it with a grain of salt..Voice my opinion at a few school board meetings but then go back to paying taxes......

So I can't be concerned about what goes on with my money?  I need to move?  Let me tell you all something, if any of you were at all concerned about the future of PNG, WHICH INCLUDES THE BLESSED FOOTBALL PROGRAM, you would be asking the same questions that I am.  I have lived here for 40yrs and have no intention of moving - so get used to me.  In fact, I probably know most of you and you would be surprised at who I am.  Y'all gotta pull your heads out and get a clue...Time to grow up and play with the big kids.  If you don't care then simply state that you don't care and let us keep discussing what is going on - is this not a discussion board.

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« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2008, 09:39:39 PM »
"""Time to grow up and play with the big kids......I probably kno most of you and you would be surprised at who I am""""

All I can say about the above comments are (Who is the kid here?)....And trust me we wouldnt be suprised....

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« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2008, 09:42:53 PM »
:punchingbag:

Its time for some football!!

Gotta love that football mentality.   "Football? You bet"  CAN YOU NAME THE MOVIE THIS QUOTE IS FROM? 

Did you wear a helmet when you played?  It's a little hard to tell from your post. :)